Category: Cleveland Indians (Page 58 of 96)

So after blogging about all the rumors and failed physicals and three-team possibilities, I’m late getting the actual story up. I apologize. I was busy and I figured you all knew anyway.

If you missed it, here. Tribe gets Andy Marte, Guillermo Mota, Kelly Shoppach and Jason Michaels, gives Coco Crisp, David Riske, Josh Bard and Arthur Rhodes (in separate deals, of course). I still wish they could’ve hung on to Rhodes somehow, but at least it’s done.

The hardest part is losing Coco, of course. Still, it amazes me how many fans out there refuse to look at this objectively. Coco is a good player. In fact, a friend of mine said the other day that he was an “average ballplayer.” That’s selling the guy short. He’s a 20/20 threat and a doubles machine who plays solid defensively. Coco Crisp is no superstar, but he is a good player.

But the thing is, Andy Marte has the chance to be a great player. No matter how long he stays and how much money you pay him, Coco will not be a great player. Said Shapiro of his newest acquisition:

In Andy Marte, we are acquiring a right-handed power hitter who is also a good defensive third baseman. Not only is third base a position of need in our organization, but it is one of the more difficult positions to acquire a player of Andy’s caliber and skill set via trade or free agency.

I couldn’t agree more. This is a fantastic move by Shapiro, because while Jason Michaels isn’t as dynamic as Coco, he’ll certainly be a useful player. He can play all three outfield positions, he hit .304 last year and he gets on base. Compare Crisp’s OB% the last two years — .344 and .345 — to Michaels’ — .364 and .399 — and you’ll see why Michaels is a prime candidate to bat second. Crisp to Michaels is a step down, for sure, but not as steep of a step as the casual fan may think.

And, folks, Guillermo Mota ain’t no slouch. Sure, we’re all now worried about his health but he passed his Boston physical a couple months ago and, rumor has it, he didn’t even fail his physical with the Tribe. Instead, they were “concerned” with the results of some of the tests. Let’s assume we get 50 innings from him, though Shapiro and Wedge would prefer 70. Well, for those 50 innings you’ve got your Bob Howry replacement, a power arm in the ninth who can also spell Wickman when the big guy needs a breather. Oh no, Mota wasn’t just a throw-in. Shapiro wanted him.

But the real gem here is Marte. Look, you don’t get a chance on a kid like this very often. Yes, the people who are saying that he may not even pan out are absolutely right. But you know what? Sometimes, the risk is worth it. If Marte does develop the way so many people believe he will, then you’ve got one of the premier third basemen in the game for the next eight or 10 years. You’ve got to roll the dice on talent like that.

Shapiro’s done this before, and while everyone keeps churning out the Brandon Phillips comparison, don’t conveniently forget about Grady Sizemore, Travis Hafner, Cliff Lee and Coco Crisp. Shapiro traded veterans for these guys and look how those deals turned out. It’s time to have some faith in this guy. He knows what he’s doing.

Five years from now, this will be remembered as the Andy Marte trade, not the Coco Crisp trade.

The Cleveland Indians are quietly working on another trade. This time it’s pitcher Jake Westbrook to Cincinnati for power hitting outfielder Austin Kearns. The trade was originally turned down the first time by previous Reds GM Dan O’Brien. The new management has taken a different opinion and opened talks with the Tribe. The Indians management continues to make risky moves and break up a very successful team from a year ago. I think that Mr. Dolan needs to understand that keeping a nucleus together is critical for success, even if it means spending money.

There’s been a lot of talk the past couple days about the much-rumored Coco Crisp/Andy Marte trade between the Indians and Red Sox falling apart, being reworked and falling apart again, so much so that I’ve chosen not to blog about it again until something appeared immenent, one way or another.

Well, that time has come. Many media outlets are reporting that the Tribe and Phillies have completed the Jason Michaels/Arthur Rhodes swap, which would seem to indicate that the Coco trade is back on as well. Otherwise, the Indians have absolutely no need to pick up Michaels.

Ken Rosenthal from FoxSports.com seems to back this sentiment up by reporting that the Sox and Indians are moving closer to completing the Crisp/Marte deal, though he’s not sure yet who else may or may not be included. One rumor I’ve heard is the Indians may still be getting Marte and Mota back, but Boston may have agreed to send more compensation to the Tribe if Mota spends a specified amount of time on the DL this season with arm problems. Interesting.

So it’s not official just yet, but it looks like we’re close.

The Philadelphia Inquirer is reporting that the Arthur Rhodes/Jason Michaels trade is in limbo because Red Sox reliever Guillermo Mota failed his physical Tuesday, putting the Coco/Marte deal on hold.

The paper suggests that the Sox could figure out some other way to compensate for the loss of Mota, in which case the deal would still get done. I agree. The only reason the Indians are doing this deal is to get their third baseman of the future, Andy Marte. They’re not going to let a reliever get in the way of finalizing this thing. If anything, take Riske and Mota out of the equation. That would solve the problem.

I love Coco, but I’m still hoping this deal gets done. Stay tuned.

UPDATE: Now the ABJ is reporting the same story, but they’re taking it a step further, saying the Crisp/Marte deal may in fact be off:

According to a baseball operative in Philadelphia, the Indians called with the news that Mota had flunked his physical and said, “The deal is dead.” Apparently, he was referring to both parts of the swap.

Maybe Marte was more important to the Tribe than I thought.

JAN. 25 UPDATE: The Boston Herald reported today that the Reds are trying to get involved, with the likely scenario being the Reds getting Sox starter Matt Clement, the Sox getting Coco, and the Indians receiving Marte from Boston and OF Austin Kearns from the Reds. Of course, the Tribe would have to give up something else in return to get this done, with the paper suggesting it could grow into a nine-player deal. There were reports a few days ago that the Indians offered Jake Westbrook to the Reds for Kearns earlier this winter but were rejected, so this latest three-team rumor may have some legs.

No, it’s not official yet, but the PD says if reliever Guillermo Mota passes his physical Tuesday, the long-rumored Coco Crisp deal could be completed by Wednesday:

The Indians would send Crisp, right-hander David Riske and catcher Josh Bard to Boston for third base prospect Andy Marte, Mota and, perhaps, catcher Kelly Shoppach. The Boston Globe reported Monday that the two teams had agreed in principle to a trade involving those six players.

The article also says the deal could fall apart if Mota, who spent some time on the DL last year with elbow problems, fails his physical.

Honestly, I like this deal a little less than I did a few days ago, if this is in fact how the trade would be structured. What I liked about shipping Crisp to Boston was not only getting a stud prospect at third in Marte but also landing Mota, a guy with a power arm who’s allowed 395 hits in his 464 career innings of work while striking out 244 batters in 269.2 innings the last three years. He didn’t work out as a full-time closer for Florida last year, but he’s got the kind of arm that would allow him to fill Bob Howry’s role as set-up man and potential back-up closer.

Giving Riske to the Sox certainly doesn’t negate the Mota acquisition, but it takes away some of the depth that made the Indians’ next rumored move — shipping a reliever to Philly for outfielder Jason Michaels — appealing. Now, instead of dealing from a surplus of talent in the bullpen, getting Michaels is going to hurt that bullpen depth.

Incidentally, the PD is also reporting that lefty Arthur Rhodes will almost assuredly be the reliever sent to Philly:

The Phillies originally wanted Rafael Betancourt, but the Indians refused. The Indians offered Riske, but the Phillies weren’t interested. The Indians then offered Riske to Boston. The Indians also considered sending Mota, 32, to the Phillies. There’s a chance that still could happen, but the Indians are inclined to keep Mota, if healthy, because he’s younger than Rhodes, 37.

I don’t get this part. Why is Betancourt so special? I know Rhodes is 37, but I love how the Indians are set up with Scott Sauerbeck early and Rhodes late. There aren’t many teams that have two proven, capable lefty relievers at their disposal. But as I have for the past few years, I’ll trust Shapiro’s judgment on this one.